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Join Nadia Eghbal and Henry Zhu for an off-the-cuff conversation between friends. Read the backstory from Henry and Nadia.

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13: Legacy

February 14, 2020 • 48 min 🎧

Why do we so easily forget where we come from? Dr. Timothy Patitsis joins Henry again to chat about the affect of legacy on our lives through the language of standards, language diversity, being a melting pot or mosaic, legibility, Jane Jacob's tripartite society, algorithmic control and agency, sanctification and faith as an adventure. Michael Polanyi says that "a society which wants to preserve a fund of personal knowledge must submit to tradition".

12: Haircut (Bonus)

February 14, 2020 • 27 min 🎧

Why not record an conversation while getting a haircut? Fellow friend and developer Jonathan Tsao cuts Henry's hair and they have a spontaneous conversation about a variety of topics covering faith and culture, living in NYC, creativitiy, narratives, sharing in vulnerability, and embodiment.

11: City as Liturgy

March 21, 2019 • 54 min 🎧

Is the city a toaster (an object) or a cat (a living organism)? We are joined by Dr. Timothy Patitsis to talk about how our physical and digital spaces, like liturgy, can be understood as "the work of the people". We discuss science as organized complexity, the meaning of knowledge, recursive societies, fractal hierarchies, and implications for governance.

10: Trust

October 16, 2018 • 34 min 🎧

Why do we trust anyone? We talk about trust as an act of faith, trusting people versus trusting code, and the relationship between trust and work.

09: Liturgy

October 16, 2018 • 32 min 🎧

How do our rituals shape us? We talk about where habits come from, why we use them, and whether they strengthen our belief systems.

08: Authority and Leadership

October 16, 2018 • 26 min 🎧

Does authority have a place in religion? We talk about authority in decentralized organizations, listening to others versus trying something new, and when to fork or leave a community.

07: Mythology and Symbolism

October 16, 2018 • 35 min 🎧

How do symbols and stories foster culture? We talk about stories as a way to onboard new contributors, the mythology of leadership, when leaders step down, and how traditions evolve over time.

06: Money

October 16, 2018 • 44 min 🎧

How do communities handle money? We talk about money and centralization, tithing systems, how much funding is too much, and when to contribute money versus time.

05: Evangelism

October 16, 2018 • 34 min 🎧

How do we evangelize our ideas? We talk about evangelism in religion and tech, meeting people where they're at, living one's values in public, and maintaining humility in the face of conviction.

04: Holy Inefficiency

October 16, 2018 • 37 min 🎧

Can everything that matters be measured? We talk about measuring the output and health of a community, competition between groups, growing a community without losing authenticity, and embracing "holy inefficiency".

03: Intrinsic Motivation

October 16, 2018 • 43 min 🎧

Why do we do what we do? We talk about intrinsic motivation, the role it plays in creative work with uncertain outcomes, motivating new contributors, and sustaining motivation over time.

02: Community Membership

October 16, 2018 • 34 min 🎧

What does it mean to join a community? We talk about casual versus committed membership, and how maintainers and leaders manage expectations around trust and collaboration.

01: Faith and open source

October 16, 2018 • 33 min 🎧

We talk about our backgrounds and motivation for doing this podcast, and why the practice of faith seems so prevalent among open source developers.